More Realistic Tributing System

[Boost]

So, I was wondering if anybody knew a way to make it more realistic. Our knowledge allows us to disable tributing via hex editing, well, Save-EE at least did it. So that will be good. What I mean by more realistic is simple, no more simply selecting the resource amount to tribute and viola, it's done within a split second. What I mean is below explained, and it is only a rough draft really:

For example, the C-47 Cargo Plane must land in an allies' airbase that has the space in order to deliver resources and vice versa, if the Airport has to say "16/15" in order for it to work, that's fine as long as it fixes itself upon taking the C-47 out again. Same goes for stuff like ships. I MAY end up keeping the transport ship the way it is, and instead making the, and renaming the LST into a cargo ship of sorts. And for land units, I dunno really. But the tedious part is...

Finding some sort of way of transporting resources this way in every epoch. I mean, in the Prehistoric Age for example, I may have to make it so that the scenario only unit, the Diplomat does it, respectively renamed, and well, some ages although, have not a single unit that is useless according to my knowledge. Hmm. Now that I think about it, I MAY be able to use the Diplomat as the ground transporter for all epochs, or at least a second choice since as with the citizens, he is always available and changes his appearance. I would LOVE to however, in WW1 & WW2 make the Staff Car be the primary choice for transportation of resources, but it's for some reason harder than the other scenario only units to get in game via hexing, at least for me.

Sure, it's not attached to a building by default, but I got the Golden Hind to work didn't I? It's the same! I dunno, I'll have to see. Also, the trigger system may be glitchy when making it detect that whenever a unit that is specified as resource transport only gets built. Because think about it, you and I may make a fleet of Staff Cars per se, where everyone but one is a decoy. The thing may glitch as it is waiting for you to define the resources to be transported by all instead of one. I would however like it if that when the resource transporter gets destroyed, that any player, allies or hostile, can pick up the resources that were supposed to be transported.

I was thinking in the Space Age I would rename the FTL Reserach Center to "Resource Teleporter" or something more scientific and BAM, two separate teleporters! But one thing that's be a bit hard for me to implement, at least in my theory, is the trigger system to detect how much resources a player has, so that he or she does NOT go into the negatives as well, triggers are the only thing that override the system that "Rounds all potential negatives up to 0" in EE. Trust me, negative resources really ARE negative! Hehehe.

So, does anybody know how to/would be willing to make such a complex system, or should I try my luck? I haven't tried it yet, and was just wondering. Maybe you guys could give me some pointers so I don't have to try and try for weeks only to find out that you guys could've told me a simple way

P.S. - It'd be nice if one could bring resources to the enemy as well as the allies, you know, something like "Ok, we will not attack you if you give us ...", like in reality, cutting business deals!

UPDATE: I started trigger work with this, but am running into problems. If anybody would like, I could post the current problems here?

[Shieldwolf]

As to the diplomat transporters thing, it can be done via complex triggers, but with fixed tributes (meaning, unlike the tributes section, you can only send for example 500 food under Diplomat to Ally 2 or 300 iron under Staff Car to Enemy 10).

As to negative resources, you should limit tributes and all other "consumption" triggers to a certain amount >=, so that the trigger wouldn't fire if that kind of resource is below the amount you set up. You do know that a negative resource is read by the editor as a positive number?

As to detecting one players' resources, you can go to the Conditions section, and compare that player's resources to any amount using the operators (>=, <=, >, <). You can also compare player to player.

Please feel free to post any problems you have encountered, boost.

[Boost]

Alright Shieldwolf, these problems actually originated before you commented here when I was trying it myself:

1. - If you type in the chat "Tribute Player 2 1000 Stone", it will add 1000 Stone to ALL Cargo Planes that are currently alive. I do not want this, I want the game to detect what unit the player clicked on, and then after typing the message, adding 1000 Stone. That way he can have multiple C-47s with different resources. BUT, the game should detect if the player clicked on a "specified" unit or not. By specified I mean specified in the trigger as "Allowed to be used for resource transportation" as I am only gonna let specific units do this and not all. If I remember right, isn't there some type of trigger that detects when the player clicked on/selected a specified unit? I could use that pretty badly here.

2. - If you type "Tribute Player 2 1000 Gold", then it will switch all alive C-47's resources to Gold no matter what they have.

3. - Any shot down OR self-destroyed C-47s will NOT decay, nor will the resource count they have go down either. Also, NO player can collect resources from it. Not the original owner, allies or enemies, nobody.

[Shieldwolf]

On 1, in the Object specification, have C-47 1-1 selected by Player 1 as object condition.
On 2, in the Object specification, have C-47 1-9999999999 as object condition.

[t1m2n3t4]

boost, you can use the cargo truck for resource transportation. I think it's better than the staff car. Especially in WW1 to Modern Age. But that's just my opinion.
As for a destroyed unit, dropping resources, here's what you can do:
IF object(cargo truck) DOES NOT exist
THEN create Iron ore(for instance) NEAR cargo truck
You'll set the amount of Iron ore, I think it can be altered.
As for making the resource amount and type visible in the unit - give it unit attribute(respective resource) and make a trigger in which when the unit is destroyed, to remove the attribute. Because if you leave it, the unit will remain on the battlefield until someone gathers its resource(the unit attribute resource, not the one that it's supposed to carry). I hope you understand the idea.

Jul 21, 2013 13:55:25 GMT 3 boost15673 said:
3. - Any shot down OR self-destroyed C-47s will NOT decay, nor will the resource count they have go down either. Also, NO player can collect resources from it. Not the original owner, allies or enemies, nobody.

Maybe create an effect which freezes the unit when it's destroyed?

[Boost]

Thanks again guys. I will try these suggestions.